Have at it.
Two areas of immediate concern:
- If you have NOT already replied re next Saturday’s Kings Mountain meatspace event with a headcount, please do so here.
- If you have a medical/scientific background on the topic, please comment on the gist of yesterday’s PCR/Wuflu post [i.e., PCR was never designed as a diagnostic tool, as enough iterations can find and expand viral remnants into finding “illness” where there is none]. Article is here:
Go!
UPDATE 1130E 6DEC 2020:
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/first-time-us-state-will-require-disclosure-pcr-test-cycle-data
test 1 2 3
One Registered Nurse planning to attend meatspace. Coming from Inner Banks North Carolina. See ya there!
Welcome aboard
1 RN and 1 Biochemist coming
CA, although I lurk a lot, I do very little posting on your forum. I’m more likely to post on TBP and NC Renegades. (I wish you had a subscription service!).
Anyway, that being said, my plans are to make this event. I do live in GA and it is a bit of a hike but, I really like the idea of 1). putting some faces to the aliases on all 3 platforms 2). being around other like minded folks.
I’m also hoping to reconnect with some of the YouTube vbloggers that I met at preparedness conferences in NC & SC back around ’08 & ’09 — mb ’10 (don’t remember the years. Some of those folks I met were Sooch00, SouthernPrepper1, Skinny Medic & Engineer775, among a few others.
Pete, Please Propogate if you would. The start…… https://eatgrueldog.wordpress.com/2020/12/06/jan-2-2021-the-shot-heard-round-the-world/ Best to you.
Wilco
Hope all ok your location
https://vaccineimpact.com/2020/censored-covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless-everything-weve-been-told-about-covid-is-a-hoax/
https://jchristoff.com/covid-test-doesnt-test-for-covid/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/wOSeTz57xrCF/
the entire thing is a sham
tfA-t hasn’t worn any covering and NEVER a mask more than a 5 times in 9 months- and only when he was asked politely by a nurse entering the VA and once inside, off it goes… and never once in a store. most people won’t even make eye contact because he looks at them with hate and contempt and has the body of an 18 year old paratrooper to back it up, besides being the picture of cleanliness and health… i just stare at them and say you are the ones who probably infected being they are surrounded by societies disgustingly filthy scum all day-everyday…
the fat, tatt’d, dirty, dumb’d down murkins must be exterminated
so proclaims tfA-t
the PCR tests amplifiy via ‘cycles’. so you must know how many cycles or cycle-threshold (CT) for your test you take. After 27 cycles NOBODY is sick or has symptoms or can transmit any virus. They are running the tests at 35-45 cycles and telling everyone to hide in their closets. ALSO- the primer on these tests is a regular coronavirus. Its NOT SARS-COV-2 ‘COVID19’. that strain has never been isolated SO they’re testing you with a faulty test for the genetic debris of a cold virus. and these science-FRAUDS only tell “+” or “-“. No viral load counts, no cycle threshold for the test etc. FINALLY, if its in your breath and spit etc why are they doing ‘DEEP BRAIN BIOPSIES’ to give you your ‘test’??? A military guy selling the rapid tests was quoted saying “this isnt the deep brain biopsies we talk about’. He slipped. I would wonder why they need DNA/RNA mapping of every citizen via these deep brain biopsies and further I would worry that you are being seeded with some tracking materials, nanoparticles of a binary weapon or the virus itself. ALL FRAUD.
Have heard same from relative who is in lab running tests. So the “casedemic” will continue til someone calls bullshit in a large way. The more you test the more you find, it’s a lot like Dominion votes.
Like tfat I haven’t worn diaper since beginning of June. This was/is a scam for the moment run by the chinkx and their Dem/Repub lackeys. Unfortunately we have primed the pump as far as weakened immunity on a colossal scale. I believe commie plan b may be to release something much nastier (dark winter bs) now that the sheep are weak.
Yeah.
That medium-lethality bug play (COVID-21, of course) would also “debunk” the building wave of COVID-deniers (eek!) created by sane folks using the brains that God gave them.
Got a cold running they my house. Mask wearers in my part of Arizona didn’t “stop the spread”. Imagine that.
Gun show in the Phoenix area this weekend. Ammo was $1/round, and a 1-hour wait. Saw a wannabe homie get denied on his background check.
Local gun store has plenty of traffic and somehow gets more rifle ammo than others.
No one had Biden flags waving. Only trump or nothing.
Why didn’t Trump blow the whistle on this whole scam, like when Plandemic movie came out?
Instead he plays along and even gets sick so he is like the common folks.
Those aren’t the actions of someone saving the nation.
Tough and fair question.
Aesop’s meme gives the time remaining:
https://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2020/11/dear-ptb.html?m=1
Leader or fraud answer at that time.
Not coincidentally, do you know any good English-language sources on the true history of the Freikorps?
Commie killers? Check
Composed of former soldaten? Check
Mission to save their heimat from enemies foreign and domestic? Check
I like where this is going….
Right, but they all turned into Nazis. Fuck the Nazi’s, right?
People need to get over their Bolshevik TV induced brainwashing and learn where it started, why the Freikorps came about and the aftermath of it all. And WHO started the whole shitshow!
And no, I don’t know of any good English books on the subject. I also need to learn more. No idea what my grandfather did after returning home from Russian front in WW1, except he had 2 young boys and a third one on the way in 1921 (my father).
Rog all.
https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/meet-freikorps-vanguard-terror-1918-1923
There might be a very good Red reason why few know the origin and details of Freikorps. Reading around the Bolshie nonsense in the piece, it seems like the Freikorps was filled with anti-Communist German vets who still had fight in them in defense of Germany
Hmmmm….
I wonder….
What a shame those murdering patriots killed that frail little woman.
I remember the same thing a few months ago about RGB, all the well wishers sending her off to hell.
I don’t think it’s really a Nazi thing.
Sig, yoir confusing me, but I thought orange man has been saying all along this is BS, Orange man, has done a decent job of keeping the Feds at bay.
Orange man has not overreached his authority, has handed it back each state for handling.
Orange man has correctly pushed the point or origin ” China” , and openly and often has stated that ” WHEN” he’s reelected ,,,, China will pay the price for its complicity in this fake pandemic.
Isn’t the intent of much of the constitution to leave control of geographic areas, ” states” in the control of those areas elected Govt.
honestly has Orangeman EVER been able from day one to objectively get messages out, via MSM without political spin, innuendo from MSM.
Perhaps I’d better understand your point, if you were to pen, what your Suggesting any elected presidents position is regarding this specific condition.
And lastly, most important, how are you holding up Brother. Need anything . We are happy to assist if needed.
Dirt
Dirk,
Trump resisted the Covid scam, for awhile, and when Plandemic movie came out, Fauci acted like he was in panic mode. Then DJT acts like NOTHING happened and plays along with the whole scam. SOMETHING happened behind the curtains, because on the Thursday the movie came out he said he had an announcement to make, on Monday still nothing. And Fauci got quiet for awhile and then went on the offensive. Trumpo is playing political theatrics just as they all do, and I’m not very impressed with someone who claims to fight for the nation and does very little except talk. Look at the Covid relief bill and how his crony buddies all benefited to the tune of trillions$, while the public got a few hundred billion. Even Pelosi was grinning from ear to ear. Helluva deal.
Maybe DJT was as horrified as the rest of us at the spinelessness of the ‘citizenry’. Many even here were preaching ‘wear the damn mask’ and other such toady shit.He along with the digital army almost killed the covid hoax while the riots flared up but it resurrected like a phoenix with wall to wall censorship. Trump and the few allied national leaders worldwide are trying to save Tradition and the Westphalian Order . The enemy is trying to save the welfare/warfare state (which died in 2008 and life support was tuned off on Sept 17th 2019) by rebooting it as Communism 3.0. replete with every Atlantean abomination and then some.
I go back and forth on Trump. As I previously asked—and you replied—“Why also has Trump hired FBI, CIA, and AG folks who are not interested in Holder-ing or Learner-ing the Left/Democrats?”
Is Trump an actor for the globalists? I get weary and suspicious of rhetoric without action, and I mean action that actually puts the enemy behind bars. I’ve always been an anti-Communist authoritarian. Never had a problem with the CIA clandestine ops pre- Bush I & II.
Situation Update, Dec. 5th – Operation Warp Speed is a CCP-engineered conspiracy to cause mass vaccine casualties across the United States military
“This situation was, of course, allowed to unfold under Barack Obama, a treasonous operative who used such opportunities to compromise American security and feed intel to America’s enemies such as China and Iran. From 2015 through 2019, China finalized its plan to engineer a biological weapon and release it on the world, knowing it would cause extensive damage to the economy and liberties of America. This bioweapon also justified the punitive lockdowns which were used by state officials to argue for extended mail-in ballots — a mechanism used to rig the 2020 election and attempt to install Joe Biden as president.
“. China knew that if the U.S. military could be maneuvered into injecting all U.S. soldiers with a dangerous, deadly “vaccine” (actually, a nanotech weapon delivery system) as a knee-jerk reaction to the coronavirus pandemic, it could weaken U.S. military readiness at the exact moment Trump would need the military to defend the republic and fight off an attempted left-wing Bolshevik-style kinetic revolution attempt. ”
” China, in other words, has convinced the U.S. military to attack itself with toxic vaccines as part of a biological weapons response program. Notably, a cautious DoD would only vaccinate perhaps 10% of the military and then wait a few months to see what happens. But in this accelerated scenario, the DoD is going to mass vaccinate almost everyone as quickly as possible, all with the same vaccine that has never been subjected to rigorous testing or clinical trials. ”
https://www.distributednews.com/480470.html
One of the most fundamental principles in investigating an epidemic is to identify Patient Zero. Read anything about that lately… anywhere?
It seems that even “Team Freedom” ignores that the first DEATHS matching the Plandemic narrative were near Ft. Detrick, the US Bioweapons lab: The Hunt for Patient Zero • Another American Index Case? by Godfree Roberts, April 10, 2020, Unz Review, https://www.unz.com/article/the-hunt-for-patient-zero/
And, of course, like the transparent fraud of Selection 2020, everything about the Plandemic is a lie EXACTLY ACCORDING TO THE INFAMOUS QUOTE ATTRIBUTED TO WILLIAM CASEY: https://www.quora.com/Did-CIA-Director-William-Casey-really-say-Well-know-our-disinformation-program-is-complete-when-everything-the-American-public-believes-is-false?share=1
I reflect frequently upon 2 Thessalonians 2:10-11. Too many, even on “Team Freedom,” are being sent the “operation of error to believe lies” because they do not love the truth and have consented to iniquity. Don’t ignore the part about being judged.
Don’t you think it’s time you paid attention to God’s most organized earthly opposition? You know, the ones He warned us about hundreds of times!
Hint: https://archive.org/details/RebuildingAmericasDefenses/page/n71/mode/2up/search/specific+genotypes
CA, this CDC doc. needs to be disseminated.
Here’s a snippet of the 8page document –
Infections in Humanitarian Settings
“High-risk individuals would be temporarily relocated to safe or “green zones” established at the household, neighborhood, camp/sector or community level depending on the context and setting.1,2They would have minimal contact with family members and other low-risk residents.”
“Camp/Sector Level:A group of shelters such as schools, community buildings within a camp/sector (max 50 high-risk individuals per single green zone) where high-risk individuals are physically isolated together.One entry point is used for exchange of food, supplies, etc. A meeting area is used for residents and visitors to interact while practicing physical distancing (2 meters). No movement into or outside the green zone.”
“Considering global reductions in commodity shortages,17 movement restrictions, border closures, and decreased trucking and flights, it is important to outline what additional resources will be needed and how they will be procured.”
Link to full document:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/downloads/global-covid-19/Interim-Operational-Considerations-Implementing-Shielding-in-Humanitarian-Settings.pdf
I typed that comment out better than it posted. Sorry.
Morning, I guess I’m seeing this a bit it differently. I get the China bug, I’ll deal with it. Until then, just another awesome day on the mountain.
I’ve learned that when MSM develops a 24/7 propaganda dump, they psychologically hook about 38% of their viewers. This repeated mantra is amusing, even they dont believe the shit their shoveling.
Got a mask, same one I’ve had since the attack started. It’s wadded up into a 1×1 ball, one ear hangers snapped, and it’s, nasty looking. Had folks Mational to me, dude why even wear that mask, it ain’t doing anything! exactly my intent.
As the clock ticks down we’ve got pressing matters to address, so were not paying much attention.
I did hear the health minister of Canada state , earlier this week, that ” They can’t make folks take the bug shot, however they can lock down movement access to fundamental needs, food, travel etc etc.
Yes their up north, here their simply not saying it, but that mentality’s coming. So lock away motherfuckers, all your doing is jamming up the cities, poking the bear.
Lastly, Slow Joe, won’t be coming for guns, the SCOTUS is secure for now. No,,,,,they will be shutting down bullets, casings and power,and hampering the ability to roll our own.
Noodle that thought, make informed choices. We have a lot of makings, we still buying till it hurts, roll our own “fixings.”
May God bless these United States!.
Dirt
With regard to the PCR comment. I’m an MD with limited use of PCR, but enough to appreciate that, yes, testing for a bug isn’t its first use. It’s primary use is to amplify and grow an existing genome sample. It effectively takes a sample and multiplies it. I think I remember a headline of a PhD mentioning that you could find any kind of genome sequence as long as its in the sample to detect presence if you just keep the PCR running. From my limited experience that doesn’t seem to be true from the context I read it, because the sequence targeted still has to be there. Granted there’s a number of mRNA strands in SAR COV II, the PCR machine still has to have a sample of that sequence to be be able to amplify (read multiply) it. Not sure that helps much, with the question, but my 0.02.
the primer used for the covid tests is a coronavirus. not ‘sars-cov-2’. they aren’t testing for covid-19 (sars-cov-2) they’re testing for a coronavirus (common cold, flu, flu shot in the past 10 years would all contain the dna of a coronavirus). look it up
You have my contact info…
I’ll be there unless all hell breaks loose this week…
Thanks Wes
I will be with you in Spirit Brother…
Same.
Not to “Fed Poast”, but one seriously needs to consider *containing* entitled twats like these, if he wants a country worth living in. They will be all too eager to sell him downriver, if it means more paltry rations and benefits for them:
https://youtu.be/AA6_GuZOyAI
‘Medical/scientific background’ . You mean members of a technocratic cult (that aren’t being censored). Come on guys. We are way past the PCR is no good stage. That was discredited by May and no less a personage than it’s inventor said it shouldn’t be used for what they are claiming. A Portuguese court ruled it ‘was not fit for purpose’. Thousands of doctors and scientists have made declarations/statements and been censored.
The enemy has moved on to activating the bot injection, medi-pass app control grid and the next broadsides – banking/cyber ‘problems’ , food distribution ‘prioritization’ and a real virus release that will put a target on the back of the ‘CoronaDeniers’. Go on the WEF website – they are telling us what they have planned with professionally made presentations.
‘Just as we humans have separated from our chimpanzee cousins , cyborgs will also separate from humans. Those that remain human will likely become a sub-species. They will become the chimpanzees of the future’ . – Klaus Schwab. Still think Alex Jones is nuts?
Don’t disagree.
But there are a boatload of trusting people that need to attain comprehension through repetition.
I don’t doubt you are right in your assessment and you have more feelers out than most. We are in more trouble than I thought. BTW I have a sister with a PhD (Medical Ethics and Morals Lol) and she is the most obtuse , stubborn person I know. Won’t open a single e mail or look at anything I physically give her. The enemy did his work well. Divided people down to the atomic level.
+100.
Godspeed, brother.
The enemy did his work well. Divided people down to the atomic level.
Which is why I’ve been trying to counter that for a long time now by advocating to build Community and if you couldn’t where you were at then be moving to somewhere you could…
I think you have the right idea, and have been working toward a similar goal myself.
Most of the folks where I set up shop already are of pretty like mind. Of the families that I’m trying to sell on relocation, there is interest, but no real steps in that direction.
Hope you all are holding it down out there.
We are growing Brother which is a good thing… Hopefully people will listen to you and get to your area that you can have good people at your side…
boss21,
I’ve dealt with the same thing, finally gave my sister (former RN) the heave ho this spring, she’s too stupid to survive. And as far as liberal friends, they laugh at my refusal to wear mask, I’m an idiot when all their friends are dying. The redneck buddies are too arrogant to catch on either, they will win because God wills it. And too stupid to learn from history about guerrilla ops.
It’s a clusterfuck of untold idiocy all thinking they know better. And all brainwashed in their own particular flavor of stupid. None are willing to listen or learn, the Bolshevik controlled media succeeded in it’s job.
Semper Fi. I hear you. Strange days.
Preach!
One of the most informative studies was released by Johns Hopkins about a week ago. The death rate in the USA from all causes is very close to the same it was in 2019, before the chink flu hit. Interesting that the #1 killer, heart disease, has been knocked from its lofty perch after a fifty-year reign at the top. The global dicknoses are full of shit. I believe in my common sense, years of reading and checking sources, uncorrupted data without an agenda and my own eyes and ears. We were taught at a young age about the dirty commie bastards. Nothing has changed. Kill a commie. It’s okay. They are not human. Cash in your One Hundred Heads policy. 2021 is a fine year to make a stand.
I’ve done a lot of PCR in fellowship training and have used RT-PCR (reverse transcriptase) for clinical cancer research.
All that a 40 cycle RT-PCR of a nasal swab sample (snot) tells you is that the segment of COVID genome you are searching for is there, in the snot. That doesn’t imply intact, transmissable viral particles, infection with said particles, timeline of exposure. It doesn’t implicitly guarantee anything of consequence in an asymptomatic individual.
It doesn’t mean a symptomatic individual is infected with COVID … they could still have the miraculously now-nonexistent influenza that we in health care are still forced to be vaccinated for and for its diagnostic test still carries a 30% false negative rate or for which most COVID suspect cases are not tested for.
The tests mean nothing. Couple its insensitivity with random sampling error and you might as well stuff a bore cleaning rod up your nose.
Just my two cents based upon 16 years of education and training followed by 25 years of clinical practice.
Got me laughing out loud, Doc.
Thanks.
That bore cleaning rod line’s a new masthead that will go into rotation, after its duty today as “Quote Of The Plague”.
How does Elon Musks 4 test that went 50/50 apply to this PCR info?
Same test or different?
Minamalmed: Your comment got me to thinking: After swabbing multiple times with a bronze bore brush, my nose is starting to bleed. Should I switch to nylon?
Dammit bill, I spit my fizzy drink up, on your timely observation, honest questions.
Can’t wait to hear proper protocols on ” How To”
Made my lazy day.
It’s forty degree out, Suns shinning, blue blue sky and I’m working on my tan!. Clovid detector says its relatively safe on the back deck.
Spencer Davis band on the stereo, at about 1/2 throttle,,, The Who’s on deck.
killer killer day in southern Oregon.
Isn’t it always quietest, before the storm? Inquiring minds wish to know.
Dirt
^Obviously proofreading was not a skillset I focused my energy upon.
An aggregator page claims that Long Dark Winter was a bioweapon exercise from 2001?
You can count on Uncle Groper to reveal the plan via Freudian Slip and that could explain the boot foot.
They will release the real lethal strain if Beijing Biden and the bitter Bindi don’t get across the finish line.
The two are the perfect faces for the sunset parade or until preezy of the steezy Stacy Abrams can lead us to Wakanda.
Re: Wuflu PCR tests,
If that’s true that we are biggly overcounting because of defective testing, then that means the mortality rate is much much higher than conventional wisdom assumes. Mortality is deaths per cases. If you shrink the denominator then you get a larger quotient. It’s as simple as that.
Contrary to what the knee-jerkers said misinterpreting the Johns Hopkins newsletter (which I actually read), excess deaths of all causes is up just shy of 400K as of a few days ago.
Like I said in support of Aesop (who was right when everyone else was wrong) you don’t even have to be strong in the fields of biology or medicine to understand the pickle we’re in: it’s merely sufficient to be good at math.
The herd immunity formula is 1-(1/RO).
The RO is estimated anywhere from 2 to 5.7 which means 50% to 83% of the country will catch it (or be inoculated) before herd immunity works.
Closed case mortality is about 3% but the argument USED TO BE that there were lots and lots of invisible cases that were especially mild or symptom free so real mortality was probably less than 1%.
Now you’re saying the problem in testing has led to the opposite error and that we’ve counted way more cases than there actually are and therefore are padding the numbers with a huge amount of recoveries by people who were never positive to begin with.
My local hospital has a full morgue and is using reefer trucks to manage the overflow. My wife is an RN at that hospital–the reefers are real not a fake news psyop.
As far as masks “not working,” it’s not that they prevent an individual from getting sick. It reduces the viral load of exposures and the distance of the particulates that viruses piggy back on.
It doesn’t help you much individually but it does slow the spread from growth that’s doubling to growth that’s more or less linear. Right now (testing problems aside) there’s 200k new cases every day. If we weren’t using masks and distancing and hand washing like lunatics you’d see a doubling about every 4 days. 200k cases a day turn into 400k which turn into 800k and you’re quickly at a point where everyone has it.
That’s not what we’ve been seeing. It’s not doubling but growing linearly.
And honestly we saw daily new cases shrink after the peak of the last two waves in spring and summer.
I can explain the math to you but I can’t understand it for you.
“That’s not what we’ve been seeing. It’s not doubling but growing linearly.”
Why do you think the case growth rate is growing in a linear rate? Could it be that the rate of administration of the tests is linear?
Your mask argument is not supported by data in that polities that had mask mandates and quarantine / lockdowns, experienced high case rate growth. Again I don’t buy that the tests are valid and or can be considered a ‘case’ with no symptoms but we can play the game. The ‘data’ includes referencing the recent Denmark study.
Masks are ridiculously stupid to use for the general public. People will use whatever they can find. They will use them repeatedly. They will touch them. They will not dispose of them properly. Masks used by doctors in a medical theater are used to prevent particles from falling into an open surgical cavity or wound. Many medical theaters also pump / recycle large volumes of air pushed through HEPA filters as well.
Masks are a control mechanism used as a quasi-religious totem to signal compliance to comply with political edicts while suspending reason and logical thinking.
I ask people constantly what conditions they would use to relinquish using a mask. The answers are all over the map including the vaccine(s). I’m only saddened for the young people that have no choice but to take the vaccine in order to go to a school. I have no sympathies for the parents.
Maff is hard. This is a bioterror weapon we are dealing with. It disproportionately hits selected groups (comorbidities, elderly, BMI >35) and is without question dangerous to those populations. Testing is simply a sampling process. No population-wide sampling process captures 100% of potential subjects. Just as the false negative rate of PCR testing is substantial, the sampling undercount is yet another unknown. We would have been better served by dedicating
resources to identification of markers of risk using genome wide association studies to better classify at-risk populations, rather than warp-speeding vaccines of questionable efficacy and unknown long-term toxicity.
The dereliction of accountability by the CCP in this act of war, and the world’s cowardice and unwillingness to place responsibility where it belongs, is staggering. So many unknowns, so much willful ignorance, so much complicity and a naked grab for power , to boot, has ripped open the nation’s soft underbelly.
We will never be the same
I’m not ashamed to wear a mask!
I wear one every time I climb into a grain bin to shovel. It’s DUSTY!
Beyond that, when I’m TOLD to wear one, I just calmly turn and leave the place of business. They’ll learn.
If we refuse to play the game it will have an impact on the normies and cucks.
You don’t need to have a fight every day. But, a grinding resistance will wear at the public if we all keep at it.
It’s all about perception.
It’s too long of a story to relate in detail, but I donned a mask ONCE to make a point.
DMV requires it per governor’s order. When time came for driver’s license photo, I refused to remove it. Calmly. Cops were called. 3 cruisers!
I had them all in a loop of cognitive dissonance that they could not escape.
That’s when they revert back to the party line. (losing strategy)
When it was all over they knew my true feelings on mandatory masks.
They also knew I was making a point that this shit is arbitrary and you can’t have it both ways in the search for convenience or tyranny.
You sir, win the FYTW merit badge for turning the gov-types brains to mush….bravo!
PCR amplifies what is present in the sample. Once that amplification is stopped, then one can test for the presence of whatever fragment you have the appropriate test for.
This points out the three main weaknesses of PCR testing:
If the sample is not representative (poor sampling technique, for example) you can get a false negative.
If PCR cycles enough times, it will show detectable levels of whatever is there even if, as others noted above, (minimalmed) the level of virus in the host is not consonant with an active infection. As noted, cycling PCR past 30 cycles tells you nothing much meaningful, or so I am told by my lab friends.
If you then test for a general coronavirus infection, rather than for Covid-19 (more properly the CCP virus) specific characteristics ( notably the ‘spike’ that was genengineered in) which is what some tests do, then all that you will see is that the host has been exposed to coronavirus at some point. Given the constant presence of the common cold, this is likely.
It is not unusual for people with clinical CCP virus infection to show symptoms and test negative on PCR. There are documented instances of repeated negative serological tests for people with the now-classic 5-lobed ‘ground glass’ CCP viral pneumonia showing on chest x-rays.
It is likewise possible for people who show no clinical symptoms to test positive on PCR. This speaks to the issue with regard to cycle numbers. Some of the people who test positive may go on to develop symptoms, some do not, even the elderly and infirm.
Case counts are an unreliable measure of this outbreak. They can be, and are, influenced by political considerations. Calling someone who tests positive on a rapid coronavirus test, (which is less reliable than PCR and which does not descriminate between the CCP virus and other coronavirus infection,) and which are being deliberately conflated with PCR testing, as a ‘new case’ artificially inflates the case numbers. This scares people as it apparently is intended to do, so I do not look at case count as being useful. Although still suspect, I view hospitalizations and deaths as more indicative of the severity of the outbreak.
Some have argued that the standards on what constitutes a CCP virus death are different from those used in other disease outbreaks. Regardless, those standards have not been manipulated since the start of this epidemic to the extent testing has. About 8%-10%, give or take, of those hospitalized with the CCP virus die as a result of that infection, depending on the quality of care and the viral clade dominant in any given area. That percentage varies somewhat over time and location, some areas higher, some lower. While this is often older people, this is not always the case. Sometimes young healthy people die, too.
While there is no doubt that case counts are being manipulated and used politically to enforce tyranny as a weapon against the American middle class, the fact remains that there is a novel disease outbreak that is presently increasing in scope and severity. The smoothed daily average death rate over the last week has more than doubled from the low earlier this summer, and will likely go higher. Watch the hospitalization and death rates, not the so-called ‘case count,’ remembering that on average, fatalities lag hospitalization by several weeks. The deaths counted on any given weekday are from those who were hospitalized, say, three weeks previously.
With regard to all who seek the Light, Historian
Historian have you overlaid the hospitalization numbers by month over previous years? Would we naturally see hospitalizations climb as the winter months proceed due to lower Vitamin D3 levels in the blood of those that live in the Northern Hemisphere and higher rates of cold/flu/disease?
The artificial constructs and perverse payment incentives for diagnosis, with false negatives and undersampling mean that we will never know the true penetrance of this virus in our population. This is a feature, not a bug. It was engineered to do exactly what it is doing.
The full ICUs are only slightly more so than any normal respiratory season. Hospitals already artificially kept census >90%. With a growing, increasingly demanding population, stagnant medical bed capacity, and a healthcare structure already mortally wounded by the PPACA, overwhelming the system didn’t take much. Restrict the mortuary processing of the dead , and the morgue fill up. None of this is rocket science
Just dropping a line to wish the “WRSA East” crew a good drone strike gathering.
I know it’s a bit late but I would like to see one in eastern ID for us “new world” folks east of the Mississippi. Idaho Falls would be a good candidate. I could probably assist with coordinating if we get enough buy-in. Looks like it’s time to come out of the shadows eh?
No input on COVID scam fuckery…
How is weather on approaches to IF for 9JAN?
Lol got a 64-sided die?
If it’s a weekend, I can make it to ID Falls on 9 JAN. Weather pending, of course…
Rog.
Consider op in planning.
I mean west side of the Mississippi…old doddery mountain cracker. It’s only a 9-hour drive.
Like Berglander says, the weather in the inter-mountain west is unpredictable but it’s safe to say cold and snow are a possibility. If they start shutting down interstates and county roads etc. that can be unpleasant, 4WD or AWD vehicles are helpful.
CA you have my crackermail address, please send it to Berglander.
I downloaded the PDF and looked at the metadata. The document was completed on 29 July, 2020. The URL below links to a CDC operational policy statement. This approach is intended to be implemented inside the United States. It’s indefinite forced relocation of “vulnerable” people. This is an official CDC operational document, folks. It’s not from a bad novel or a conspiracy theory site. Read the whole document at the link at the bottom.
The introduction includes this description:
“This document presents considerations from the perspective of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC) for implementing the shielding approach in humanitarian settings as outlined in guidance documents focused on camps, displaced populations and low-resource settings.”
The shielding approach is summarized by the CDC as such:
“The shielding approach aims to reduce the number of severe COVID-19 cases by limiting contact between individuals at higher risk of developing severe disease (“high-risk”) and the general population (“low-risk”). High-risk individuals would be temporarily relocated to safe or “green zones” established at the household, neighborhood, camp/sector or community level depending on the context and setting.1,2They would have minimal contact with family members and other low-risk residents.”
Let’s see…who are these high-risk individuals who will need to be relocated?
“Current evidence indicates that older adults and people of any age who have serious underlying medical conditions are at higher risk for severe illness from COVID-19.”
They are going to graciously allow old folks and sick people to receive supplies at the “Camp Level”:
“One entry point is used for exchange of food, supplies, etc. A meeting area is used for residents and visitors to interact while practicing physical distancing (2 meters). No movement into or outside the green zone.”
Yay! We even get a community latrine and a bathing area:
“Each green zone has a dedicated latrine/bathing facility for high-risk individuals”
Thank God we get to perform forced labor caring for the sick while we’re in the camps:
“To minimize external contact, each green zone should include able-bodied high-risk individuals capable of caring for residents who have disabilities or are less mobile.”
I’m sure glad they had the foresight to monitor me when I get to the camp to ensure I adhere to protocols:
“Dedicated staff need to be identified to monitor each green zone. Monitoring includes both adherence to protocols and potential adverse effects or outcomes due to isolation and stigma”
Good thing they thought about brainwashing us after we lose our personal freedom:
“Even with community involvement, there may be a risk of stigmatization.11,12 Isolation/separation from family members, loss of freedom and personal interactions may require additional psychosocial support structures/systems.”
Goody! I’ll even get to clean the latrine to help those who can’t!
“High-risk individuals will be responsible for cleaning and maintaining their own living space and facilities. This may not be feasible for persons with disabilities or decreased mobility.11Maintaining hygiene conditions in communal facilities is difficult during non-outbreak settings.7,8,9 consequently it may be necessary to provide additional human resource support.”
But it’s all “for our protection”:
Protection
Consideration: Ensure safe and protective environments for all individuals, including minors and individuals who require additional care whether they are in the green zone or remain in a household after the primary caregiver or income provider has moved to the green zone. Explanation: Separating families and disrupting and deconstructing multigenerational households may have long-term negative consequences.
No Church services, weddings, or funerals for those of us being “shielded” for our own good”:
Social/Cultural/Religious Practices
Consideration: Plan for potential disruption of social networks. Explanation: Community celebrations (religious holidays), bereavement (funerals) and other rites of passage are cornerstones of many societies. Proactive planning ahead of time, including strong community engagement and risk communication is needed to better understand the issues and concerns of restricting individuals from participating in communal practices because they are being shielded.
“Agencies” need to consider “potential repercussions”. Because they care:
“The shielding approach is intended to alleviate stress on the healthcare system and circumvent the negative economic consequences of long-term containment measures and lockdowns by protecting the most vulnerable.1,24,25 Implementation of this approach will involve careful planning, additional resources, strict adherence and strong multi-sector coordination, requiring agencies to consider the potential repercussion among populations that have collectively experienced physical and psychological trauma which makes them more vulnerable to adverse psychosocial consequences.”
Again, please read the document for yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/downloads/global-covid-19/Interim-Operational-Considerations-Implementing-Shielding-in-Humanitarian-Settings.pdf
none of you are going to do a damn thing about this.
I have no doubt you will try to defend yourselves, your family and your stuff. But you’ll die alone with a pile of brass around ya and never even begin to engage the real enemy.
We all know the (((perps))) behind ALL this crap going on, their minion sellouts and their protectors must be shot for … call it what you want: crimes against humanity, treason, sedition…..who cares what the label is..
They flat out say their goal is depopulation of 90-95% of the planet and they’re going to pull it off. Not much to debate there.
Everyone is too comfortable, no one’s going to do a thing about the real problem. It’s all part of the setup.
If we allow them to crash the economy and force this economic reset on us everyone will be scrambling for food. No one is gonna care about who did it to them.
It’s been entertaining to watch all the chest pounding and ignorance to the evidence of who the (((real perps))) are though.
Yup, anyone who points out the real (((culprits))) gets laughed at and called names by the PC followers here. All educated by (((Hollywood))) too.
SemperFi, 0321,
How can these men delude themselves into believing they are going to fight/win a war if they literally do not know whom (((the enemy))) are ??
It’s as delusional as the mask wearing sheeple the majority here point their finger at !
We’ve already lost if they don’t know who to go after. And there’s very little time now to figure it out. Once the festivities start they will get bogged down in the various proxies they have been indoctrinated to focus on. Almost all fell for the trap and still are.
Sad, I expected more critical thinking ability from the mostly good men here.
I’ve been pointing it out for over a decade here, they all know better and instead, want to start wars with Russia and China over lies pushed by the Bolshevik media. Centuries of lies and playing people/nations against each other and profiting from both sides are their modus operandi, and the gullible masses refuse to wake up, even in their last dying moments.
KOBK, ‘they’ want to depopulate 95%. Honestly why should any good man risk a dishonorable death or prison to save them . They would turn you in instantly. This is baked in the cake. Most of these sheep want oblivion. All that is left to us is defensive duty. The cosmic wheels have clicked and this all happened before in Atlantis.
Re: Item 2) Yes, but no.
Which is why T.D. should probably stick to finance and econ; medical topics, not so much.
Yes, the PCR test is being abused to the point of worthlessness. If it ever had any worth to begin with.
That’s why I couldn’t give two shits and a wet fart about “cases”.
They mean Jack and Shit to me. Whether real or imaginary.
BUT…
When PCR shows you have 200 cases one week, then 400, then 800, then 1000, no matter how fornicated up the gauge, it is correctly indicating the trend over time.
And increased cases today means increased hospitalization on D+21, and increased deaths on D+42, because gravity works.
States that are basing their fiat orders on increased cases have shit for brains, purely and simply.
But that was true long before Kung Flu, and will be true long after it’s gone.
Hereabouts, the metric that pays off is “What in hell is the number of available ICU beds?”, which is dead-on balls accurate for how fucked you are, and how fucked you’re going to be 21 days from now.
Because that’s about how long it takes for sick COVID patients who are going to die in the ICU, to git ‘er done.
And if all your ICU beds are full today, every heart attack, every stroke, ever major trauma from everything – gun shots, stabbings, car accidents, or falling into a hay baler – is double-fucked, because there’s no place to go, or else they have to be transported to BFEgypt, because the nearest trauma center or five has no vacancies.
That jacks up COVID deaths, slams hospitals, and kills all the people we used to routinely save, because all the mask-free clueless idiot Gilligans fucked over the town, filled the hospitals up, and now everyone else is going to die 37 other ways too. Just like we effing warned you could happen waaaaaaay back in February.
So Tyler’s worked up, and he’s right, but mainly about something which doesn’t matter, and not enough about something that does.
The actual concern algorithm, in ascending order of seriousness, is below:
A) Cases are up?
IDGAF.
B)Hospitalizations are up?
I’m concerned.
C)Hospitals are full?
You’re fucked. And so are they.
D) ICUs are full?
Everyone’s fucked until you get that fixed.
Or until the sick people die.
If you have 330M cases, and zero hospitalizations, no one gives a shit.
Least of all anyone with a state license in the medical professions.
And the HMFICs shouldn’t be shutting down any damned thing.
But if you’ve filled up all the local ICUs, your local level of medical care is now at 1930 levels.
Which should be getting things locked down until the Gilligans get dick-punched into common sense.
And if you crush and crash your medical infrastructure, you’re going to be doing medicine at 1830 levels in short order. At that point, it doesn’t matter what you do, because you’ve already screwed the pooch so hard you killed it.
Suture self.
That’s the quick and dirty.
Back in May/June, we were full in our ICU 24/7 for weeks on end.
Which kept other ICU patients in the ER. For days, instead of hours.
Which shut the ER down indefinitely.
Lose one hospital hereabouts, and you lose maybe 4% of medical capacity.
Do that to 25 or so more hospitals hereabouts, and we only have 4% capacity.
When you only have 4% blood flow to your heart, it’s a heart attack.
When you only have 4% blood flow to your brain, it’s a stroke.
{Hint for Common Core grads: these are bad.}
When you only have 4% hospital capacity, it’s called the Middle Ages.
If you’re not a qualified barber-surgeon and nurse-midwife in your own right, that’s probably something you want to avoid, if at all possible.
Having 27 hospitals in your county but no beds, is like having the 20 biggest banks in America in your county, but having $0 in your checking account, and no job.
And BTW, the only magic that has allowed me to work with full-on COVID patients for 9 months at bad breath range without getting it is a couple of top secret scientific miracles called:
Wash your goddamned grubby fucking paws!
and
Wear a goddamned mask on your puss! (you “just the flu” bros know these things as “those things which don’t work”).
That’s it.
Choose wisely.
Just saying.
Item 1) Best wishes on the shindig.
The commute’s killer for me.
“Find something communist and kill it.”
Truer words…
Re item 1, can you lase a location in your area of interest for a similar event 16JAN?
Target designation only; know how busy you are.
NV would work as well if you think out of Newsomland is a better idea.
Drop thoughts at usual WRSA e-addy.
Putting one on in Vegas for the Jan 16 and 17 for a group of friends you are more than welcome to come aboard…
Ok. Let me know how can help.
Wilco…
And Aesop isn’t talking about the other real impact of having full ICUs with lots of CCP virus patients- Staff loss. Even with the widespread usage of temporary negative pressure rooms, there are issues.
Staff don’t like having to deal with case after case after case of aerosol isolation patients. Every time HCW go into an airborne aerosol iso room, they put on all their PPE (N100 or PAPR, gown, face shield , head cover, booties, disinfect their hands, glove up (Double glove if they are handling sharps,) while one of their team mates watches to make sure it is done right, (in theory) then go in to that room, do whatever needs to be done at that moment in time, (and probably everything that needs to be done for the next hour or so,) and then come out and carefully take all that stuff off, again with one of their teammates watching.
If you concentrate all of the CCP virus patients in negative pressure wards, all of the nurses have patients that are AI and then they spend the entire shift dealing with AI PPE, knowing that if they screw up, they are likely, given that the air in that room is hot, to get the bug. The first time a young HCW gets this, it is usually (>90% of the time,) no problem. BUT you can get it multiple times and in a surprising number of instances folks who get this repeatedly get it worse each time. I know a young woman who works in a hospital who got it at least three times.
First time, she tested positive when a coworker got it, got time off, no symptoms. She was joking about it. The second time, she got a fever of over 100 degrees, was sick for a week or so, got two weeks off after that, and was weak afterwards for a couple of weeks. She wasn’t joking this time, but still wasn’t paying enough attention to her PPE and hand hygiene. The third time, she wound up in the hospital, seriously ill with a high fever. She did not get sedated and intubated, but it was a bad time. Now, she comes in wearing full PPE and a face shield, and is religious about her hand hygiene and PPE, because she thinks it is likely if she gets this a fourth time that she’ll wind up in the ICU and won’t survive it.
Staff are getting tired and burnt out. The extra work combined with the risk of a severe case imposes a strain, and eventually they have had enough and they leave. Some for a posting where they DO NOT have to do nothing but take care of CCP virus patients. Some decide that they’ll live off savings for a while and wait and see what happens this winter. Morale is not helped when leadership ‘works from home’ or stays locked in the admin suite and never rounds the house.
And those are just the clinical staff. Support staff in many hospitals are treated worse, with no training or PPE or support, yet without the cleaning and janitorial staff, and the engineering staff, and the security staff, or the food service staff, your hospital isn’t going to function properly for long at all.
With regard to all who seek the Light, Historian
I am a cancer surgeon. My cases are not considered “elective surgery”. I see 100 patients per week in the office, about 20-25 operations per week. 500 breast cancers and 150 melanomas per year (I stopped doing the livers, pancreas, rectums and esophagi after about 20 years and lotsa gray hair, Aesop). I come home every night to a kidney transplant recipient. The death rate for hospitalized COVID+ transplant patients in our local statewide center is 10%.
I haven’t slowed down one bit. Cancer doesn’t take a day off, or get locked down. Like Aesop, I wash hands, distance as I can, and mask. All my patients mask. One adult with the patient in the hospital or exam room. The wife minimizes her forays off the property, and has for nine months. My daughter married; I walked her down the aisle in my mask, scowled at the assembled crowd of 150 (including the bovine ex), and left.
So far, so good, in one of those high infection rate states (MS). Sooner or later, Xi’s virus may get me. We have a lot of outpatient treatment going on here with daily IV remdesivir and Regeneron, subQ Lovenox and oral Eliquis with home oxygen that is helping people avoid hospitalization.
I agree that simple measures and prudent behavior helps a lot, but we cannot kill the economy, either. If we’re broke we can not equip, staff and service an ICU bed. It’s a delicate balance, and really, if you think about it, part of the war footing we have failed to collectively acknowledge
Aesop- If the spell ever breaks , history won’t be kind to your kind. You people breathed life into this civilization killing crap and gave cover to tyrants. That said we will see how washing hands and masks work out when they release some real nasties as rearguard action if OrangeManBad prevails.
^^^^this^^^^
I’m at a loss to understand all these dead people the medical types here describe, we have lost a bunch of sick Indians on the res (which is normal due to alcohol/drugs/obesity) and not 1 person in my town has died. The 1918 Spanish flu got more. Every person diagnosed with WuFlu is walking around and alive, with little problem, now they’re proud of being Covid survivors. The real weird thing is, nobody has had any type of seasonal flu so far. What the fuck happened to the flu??????
Never mind……….
I downloaded the PDF and looked at the metadata. The document was completed on 29 July, 2020. The URL below links to a CDC operational policy statement. This approach is intended to be implemented inside the United States. It’s indefinite forced relocation of “vulnerable” people. This is an official CDC operational document, folks. It’s not from a bad novel or a conspiracy theory site. Read the whole document at the link at the bottom.
The introduction includes this description:
“This document presents considerations from the perspective of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC) for implementing the shielding approach in humanitarian settings as outlined in guidance documents focused on camps, displaced populations and low-resource settings.”
The shielding approach is summarized by the CDC as such:
“The shielding approach aims to reduce the number of severe COVID-19 cases by limiting contact between individuals at higher risk of developing severe disease (“high-risk”) and the general population (“low-risk”). High-risk individuals would be temporarily relocated to safe or “green zones” established at the household, neighborhood, camp/sector or community level depending on the context and setting.1,2They would have minimal contact with family members and other low-risk residents.”
Let’s see…who are these high-risk individuals who will need to be relocated?
“Current evidence indicates that older adults and people of any age who have serious underlying medical conditions are at higher risk for severe illness from COVID-19.”
They are going to graciously allow old folks and sick people to receive supplies at the “Camp Level”:
“One entry point is used for exchange of food, supplies, etc. A meeting area is used for residents and visitors to interact while practicing physical distancing (2 meters). No movement into or outside the green zone.”
Yay! We even get a community latrine and a bathing area:
“Each green zone has a dedicated latrine/bathing facility for high-risk individuals”
Thank God we get to perform forced labor caring for the sick while we’re in the camps:
“To minimize external contact, each green zone should include able-bodied high-risk individuals capable of caring for residents who have disabilities or are less mobile.”
I’m sure glad they had the foresight to monitor me when I get to the camp to ensure I adhere to protocols:
“Dedicated staff need to be identified to monitor each green zone. Monitoring includes both adherence to protocols and potential adverse effects or outcomes due to isolation and stigma”
Good thing they thought about brainwashing us after we lose our personal freedom:
“Even with community involvement, there may be a risk of stigmatization.11,12 Isolation/separation from family members, loss of freedom and personal interactions may require additional psychosocial support structures/systems.”
Goody! I’ll even get to clean the latrine to help those who can’t!
“High-risk individuals will be responsible for cleaning and maintaining their own living space and facilities. This may not be feasible for persons with disabilities or decreased mobility.11Maintaining hygiene conditions in communal facilities is difficult during non-outbreak settings.7,8,9 consequently it may be necessary to provide additional human resource support.”
But it’s all “for our protection”:
Protection
Consideration: Ensure safe and protective environments for all individuals, including minors and individuals who require additional care whether they are in the green zone or remain in a household after the primary caregiver or income provider has moved to the green zone. Explanation: Separating families and disrupting and deconstructing multigenerational households may have long-term negative consequences.
No Church services, weddings, or funerals for those of us being “shielded” for our own good”:
Social/Cultural/Religious Practices
Consideration: Plan for potential disruption of social networks. Explanation: Community celebrations (religious holidays), bereavement (funerals) and other rites of passage are cornerstones of many societies. Proactive planning ahead of time, including strong community engagement and risk communication is needed to better understand the issues and concerns of restricting individuals from participating in communal practices because they are being shielded.
“Agencies” need to consider “potential repercussions”. Because they care:
“The shielding approach is intended to alleviate stress on the healthcare system and circumvent the negative economic consequences of long-term containment measures and lockdowns by protecting the most vulnerable.1,24,25 Implementation of this approach will involve careful planning, additional resources, strict adherence and strong multi-sector coordination, requiring agencies to consider the potential repercussion among populations that have collectively experienced physical and psychological trauma which makes them more vulnerable to adverse psychosocial consequences.”
Again, please read the document for yourself.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/downloads/global-covid-19/Interim-Operational-Considerations-Implementing-Shielding-in-Humanitarian-Settings.pdf
Please check your WRSA Email address, boss.
Got some images for you.
Wilco tonight
One other thing, re: Humanitarian Lockdowns
I.E. Operation Lock Gramps and Grannie Up Indefinitely.
Compare and contrast this plan with Theresienstadt circa 1940, and get back to us.
I’m specifically thinking of how, once you set the precedent of segregating people “for their own good”, it becomes orders of magnitude easier to take them on a boxcar ride for a better set of accommodations, and a free shower after their arduous train ride.
Then ponder Niemoller’s lament:
“First they came for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me.”
Then tell me how “It will be different this time…”
Show your work.
Lastly, tell me how putting them in COVID-free ghettos will work 10,0000X better than Gun-Free Zones have worked, because reasons, and because the government does this so well that our schools are safe, and because it’s so much easier to block microscopic viruses than it is to block guns bigger than your hand.
If anyone wants to try and hot-patch the skin of that flaming Hindenburg of an idea, I’ll be over here while anyone wants to write the answers on the chalkboard for the whole class.
https://i.imgur.com/6oJPNWh.png
The artificial constructs and perverse payment incentives for diagnosis, with false negatives and undersampling mean that we will never know the true penetrance of this virus in our population. This is a feature, not a bug. It was engineered to do exactly what it is doing.
The full ICUs are only slightly more so than any normal respiratory season. Hospitals already artificially kept census >90%. With a growing, increasingly demanding population, stagnant medical bed capacity, and a healthcare structure already mortally wounded by the PPACA, overwhelming the system didn’t take much. Restrict the mortuary processing of the dead , and the morgue fill up. None of this is rocket science
Consider also that an increase in all-cause mortality may well be related to reduction in intensity of treatment for other, commonly fatal, infirmities. Such as cancer, heart disease, diabetes, etc
I am making plans to attend, hopefully nothing will interfere with the travel.
As far as the virus: this IS a biological weapon, but not a particularly lethal one. As I have encouraged medical folks before, go to nerdhaspower.weebly.com for a well written initial paper and hundreds of very thoughtful & detailed comments by professionals in the field. Obviously there are Chinese dissident folks involved in this (the website is published in English and Chinese) and much is posted under a pseudonym. Slam dunk this is a manufactured virus … but one with relatively low lethality compared to SARS & MURS.
Clinically, people with high Vit D levels are far less susceptible to infection. People need to be supplementing. PERIOD. Zn also plays a role, but ESPECIALLY for those who are sick. HCQ + Zn remains quite effective & well tolerated. I refer folks to ‘AmericasFrontLineDoctors.com’ for great info. This virus has been a goldmine for Big Pharma, and the censoring of docs who don’t go with the Party Line has been just as thorough as censoring info about The Big Steal.
PCR testing has been thoroughly discussed above, so I won’t repeat it. I simply say that IF you have been exposed to someone clinically ill and begin to develop symptoms, TAKE HCQ!
CA, apparently my emails aren’t getting to you. Drop me a note via this address if you please 🙂
Mail out tonight
By Dr. Betty Martini, D.Hum.
8-3-20
14. HERE IS ALL YOU NEED TO DO TO MAKE YOUR VERY OWN QUININE……TAKE THE RIND OF 2-3 LEMONS, 2-3 GRAPEFRUITS. TAKE THE PEEL ONLY AND COVER IT WITH WATER ABOUT 3 INCHES ABOVE THE PEELS.PUT A GLASS LID ON YOUR POT IF YOU HAVE ONE, A METAL ONE IS FINE IF YOU DON’T.
15. LET IT SIMMER FOR ABOUT 2 HOURS. DO NOT TAKE THE LID OFF OF THE POT TILL IT COOLS COMPLETELY AS THIS WILL ALLOW THE QUININE TO ESCAPE IN THE STEAM.
16. SWEETEN THE TEA WITH HONEY OR SUGAR SINCE IT WILL BE BITTER. TAKE 1 TABLESPOON EVERY COUPLE OF HOURS TO BRING UP THE PHLEGM FROM YOUR LUNGS. DISCONTINUE AS SOON AS YOU GET BETTER.
13. IF YOU TAKE ZINC WITH THIS RECIPE, THE ZINC PROPELS THE QUININE INTO YOUR CELLS FOR A MUCH FASTER HEALING.
https://rense.com/general96/home-recipe-for-hydroxychloroquine-hcq.php
As was mentioned above; why the continual bloviating about the ‘PCR/Covid is a scam’ bullshit?
How many times do you need to rebut lying criminals and their lackeys who don’t care about facts or what happens to people they want dead??
Covidiots gonna suffer and die via their own cognitive dissonance. Good riddance!
Focus on resistance and the disconnect!!
I will try to make it to the “picnic” if I am in the proximity. I will need to find big rig parking, rest area or truck stop or just block traffic. If I am not in the proximity I will meet up with whomever on the road wherever I happen to be.
I knew they were coming up with a potent nasty virus after the election, regardless of who won. It’s their final solution to the problem. Doing PT as often as I can and am running two miles in my new Danners for conditioning, ah hoo’ah!
I think we are at that stage where we fight back and fight to win; or we lose it permanently and regret it for the remainder of our misery.
Stay in touch. We can arrange dust off from your rig. Search vicinity exit 106 on 85. Pilot there. You assess for layup of your rig and advise.
There’s horse-trailer parking on the grounds. Would be lightly used this time of year, and should afford plenty of maneuverability.
Roger, much appreciated, will keep you apprised.
Doc, thanks for the comment. As opposed the comments from the crazy Karen’s here, yours breathes a sense of sanity.
And the biggest thing to remember, Fauci exported it to China in 2015, we can’t go starting a war over a virus when it actually came from the USA 5 yrs ago. China was just part of the mail delivery route.
Instead of starting WW3 with China, why doesn’t someone take out Fauci and Co.? This nation is being played for the fool that it is.
I don’t think that is true. Yes, Baric & his group @ UNC were doing gain of function research, and this stuff has been in the works for some time. But I give the ChiComs this one in their basket. The reason being there has been so much information leaking out from true researchers, all pointing to Wuhan. “Fort Detrick” and related themes that I have encountered are too far into the tin-foil hat territory, without an real evidence or credible testimony, unlike what we get from China.
This has always been something that troubles me about the Patriot community: a tendency to be too open to being scammed. It seemed rather clear after a few months that the ‘Q-anon’ material didn’t fly. I used to listen to Alex Jones, but other than him finally becoming aware of Matt B, he got too far off into silliness in most medical areas. The ‘Natural News’ guy has written so much that, to the best I can ascertain, is BS. They will talk about things I KNOW they are wrong about, from my own personal expertise and that of people I trust.
Look, I have ZERO trust for the FDA or CDC, the WHO, and damn near any globalist ‘think-tank’ cool-kids club. The extent of the corruption, the utter ROT present in our world today blows my mind. I have been waiting for hyperinflation since Lehman Brothers in 2008, expecting far more aggressive anti-gun efforts since ‘Fast & Furious.’ I have wrestled with the idea of Rudy being on our side now, given his past 9-11 stance. But there are (conspiracy) theories that just don’t hold water.
Years ago people were getting up in arms about “Russian suitcase nukes OMG!!!” and I had some interesting dialogue with my father about this stuff . For the last 8-10 years in his professional career, he was the preeminent ‘nuclear non-proliferation’ analyst in this nation. As a guy who was sitting out in the Pacific dodging kamakazis while we were preparing for the invasion of Japan, he was a massive fan of nukes as we used them to save up to a million American soldiers. When I was in high school & opposed to VietNam, he used to say we just needed to nuke Hanoi! But when went back to Lawrence-Livermore in the 80s, he came to realize how corrupt the CIA & intel world had become. Their goal was WAR, not truth. He was long out of the game when Bush2 went into Iraq, and I remember saying something about Cheney & “WMDs.” He just looked at me with a look that said ‘have I raised a MORON?’ and stated out loud, “OF COURSE there were no weapons of mass destruction!” This was NOT based on classified intel, again he was long retired, but just based on his own experience with the CIA idiots & the need to start wars. I realized he had stopped trusting in this government, a man who has done as much in service of America as any man of his generation. BTW, he always laughed at the suitcase nuke stuff, AND said that he had always slept well at night under the doctrine of MAD with the Soviets. When I played the song by Sting for him, he said “sure, they love their children too, that’s why I don’t worry about them.”
My own journey as a physician has taken me through a lot of changes. Back in the 90s I spoke for a couple of pharmaceutical companies. But by 2000, they were no longer letting me do my own thing at a dinner meeting, but wanted me to use all of their slides and give their talk: in essence, an infomercial. Nope. Not going there. Then seeing the corruption of the CDC around their fabrication of data (vaccine – autism research), and I progressed to full blown cynicism.
Now when MERS & SARS were happening, they scared me. Ebola STILL SCARES ME. I have Tyvek suits and full-tilt gas masks & such for those days. Yes, there are a FEW healthy people who have been whacked by this disease, but not many relatively speaking. People are wearing masks and yet there is no evidence of viral transmission being measurably impacted.
Alright, let me get down off of my long winded soapbox. It is weird to realize I have become the cantankerous old man, so be it!
I, too, am a cantankerous old man next door to you in MS. I am with you 110%. Sadly, though, to take care of my folks I have to rein it in a bit at work. We have received email threats from the Executive Director of our Board (a surgeon sued out of practice who now greatly enjoys his newfound power)… I’m sure he’ll lick his chops over this:
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/528898-oregon-medical-board-suspends-license-for-doctor-who-refused-to-wear?fbclid=IwAR0fNTxDfVX7aYqzLQowrCGj2AfyWRh_5JmnRb9LR2DgD3RwIPhokbBRK7k
Is it still too early to shoot the bastards?
SemperFi, 0321,
your last sentence reminds me of something my good friend JB Campbell said to me a few years ago …
“the problem today with so many Americans is they’re no damned good anymore, not worth saving”.
I realized he was sadly correct and it’s probably sealed our fate at this point.
KOBK,
careful there, people might mistake you for tfAt. 🙂
HA…. think I’ll take that as a compliment Sir. 🙂
One of the most informative studies was released by Johns Hopkins about a week ago. The death rate in the USA from all causes is very close to the same it was in 2019, before the chink flu hit. Interesting that the #1 killer, heart disease, has been knocked from its lofty perch after a fifty-year reign at the top. The global dicknoses are full of shit. I believe in my common sense, years of reading and checking sources, uncorrupted data without an agenda and my own eyes and ears. We were taught at a young age about the dirty commie bastards. Nothing has changed. Kill a commie. It’s okay. They are not human. Cash in your One Hundred Heads policy. 2021 is a fine year to make a stand.
That’s the one that got pulled?
Got a copy or a live link?
I just pulled the CDC spreadsheet death data for last year & this year. Grouped by week & by state, just perusing the numbers shows a definite increase here in Alabama. Not sure what Hopkins study you are referring to, but given that they make no mention of HCQ in their website, I don’t trust them. Their educational section on ‘Medical Countermeasures: Therapies and Vaccines in Development is given by, yep, someone who works on VACCINES! Not a freakin’ THING about actual treatment!
All-cause deaths will increase year-over-year because: population increase; population aging; people NEGLECTING needed medical care (screenings and active disease management) – how many cancers will miss early detection, how many heart disease patients will worsen because they did not have their normal monitoring, etc – depression & suicide, alcohol & drug use … and (tongue in cheek) tremendous increase in APOD* deaths.
Aw, screw it. As my dear friend & pastor said at the memorial service yesterday for a beloved friend of mine, “the probability of death for all human beings is 100%.” The way things are looking in this nation, I am not worried about a 120nm virus, more likely a 5.56 or 9mm chunk of lead is going to send me Home to Jesus.
I place my odds of dying peacefully in my sleep as less than even, and declining daily
Doc, we’re on the same page for the most part. My father was WW2 Fallschirmjager medic and later physician, fought AMA since the 60’s. I went thru NBC school in mid 70’s and learned about germ infiltration and still keep gas mask handy. Cloth masks are hoax.
I don’t trust or believe anything from fedgov or media, they lie for profit and fuck the masses. And yes, alphabet agencies are not our friends, they live for war.
Take care.
I place my odds of dying peacefully in my sleep as less than even, and declining daily
“…Connecting the dots
To connect the dots on all this, consider the following:
China hacks the OPM database in 2014 – 2015, exfiltrated details personnel files on nearly every U.S. military person as well as federal employee.
The files contain details that can be easily used to blackmail or extort those individuals.
China uses students and other spies to approach targeted individuals and threaten them with extortion while offering financial incentives for cooperation.
In this way, China achieves strong control over key personnel in the DoD, FBI, DOJ and every other government agency. (How do you think Comey got compromised?)
China then builds the coronavirus, using money from Barack Obama’s NIH, funneled to China by Fauci, who was likely blackmailed by China years earlier.
China releases the coronavirus in 2019, knowing the virus would spread to the United States and have a devastating impact on the U.S. economy.
China pressures the WHO to make sure America keeps flights open from China, to ensure widespread virus penetration into the USA. China orders the left-wing media to call Trump a “racist” when he tries to block incoming flights from China.
The virus achieves its desired outcome when Democrats demand large-scale mail-in ballots for the Nov. 3rd election. Through this mechanism, they were able to easily pull off widespread election fraud to seemingly remove Trump from office (a key goal of communist China, which owns the Biden crime family and has extensive files on Hunter and Joe Biden, useful for extortion).
China knows that Trump will resist the coup and may use the military to defend the republic, so China devises a second plan to compromise key personnel at DoD who are involved in Operation Warp Speed.
China makes sure that decisions are made to accelerate vaccine deployment across the military itself, even helping to prioritize certain types of military personnel for the first wave of vaccines, such as cyber command personnel and missile submarine troops.
Through China’s influence, DoD personnel choose McKesson to help distribute the first vaccine, knowing that McKesson is already involved in the mass killing of military-aged males across America, via the opioid epidemic.
Pfizer is chosen for its vaccine because the mRNA platform causes the body to turn into a biological weapon against itself, resulting in hyperinflammatory events and, in some cases, severe injury and death (autoimmune reactions are often the cause).
China knows that the vaccines will be deployed at almost the exact time the US Supreme Court is due to rule on the outcome of US elections. With a pro-Trump ruling, the radical Left will erupt and attempt a kinetic coup against the United States government. At this very moment, however, U.S. troops will be weakened by the injuries, hospitalizations and deaths caused by the experimental vaccine. This will allow China to deploy its own troops with much less resistance.
Mark Esper, who was fired by Trump and replaced by Christopher Miller, was one of the key decision makers in this entire process. Esper is widely believed to be influenced by anti-American forces and is well known to be strongly opposed to Trump.
At the same time, China is of course running Big Tech and controlling the censorship algorithms that silence pro-America voices. China also controls nearly the entire U.S. media, including the NYT, WSJ, WashPost, CNN, etc., and in fact China has a documented record of openly paying these news organizations hundreds of millions of dollars to push pro-CCP propaganda.
Also remember that the first wave of vaccines will spread the pandemic, unleashing a “second wave” of lockdowns that will further destroy the U.S. economy.
The election war, the covid war, the censorship war, the media war, the culture war: It’s ALL THE SAME WAR: A war with Communist China…”
https://www.distributednews.com/480470.html
We talk a lot about needing open source software for voting systems.
We need to demand open source pcr primer sequences and open source mRNA sequences used in vaccines.
When the annealing temp in pcr is a degree too cold, you bind to a similar sequence and amplify the wrong segment.
Similarly, the sequence translated in an RNA vaccine may have homology with other proteins having disasterous potential
My son and I are planning on attending. Driving down from VA to pick up some goods from family in Spartanburg on Saturday.
https://gab.com/JohnRivers/posts/105336339188631344